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作者: teamc    時間: 2009-8-28 10:16
標題: World Championship TQ Car
Robert Pietsch's Car

A lot of Shepherd Velox parts inside
作者: ilove-benz    時間: 2009-8-28 11:06
乜車黎????
作者: Panda    時間: 2009-8-28 11:35
乜車黎????
ilove-benz 發表於 2009-8-28 11:06


MRX4X
作者: Andrewkwan    時間: 2009-8-28 12:37
吾知 MRX4X 賣多少錢 ??
作者: Panda    時間: 2009-8-28 12:52
吾知 MRX4X 賣多少錢 ??
Andrewkwan 發表於 2009-8-28 12:37


4XXX
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-8-28 13:14
All 1/8 are over 4k
作者: lkwmic    時間: 2009-8-28 17:13
All 1/8 are over 4k
macau-rc 發表於 2009-8-28 13:14


好貴呀!
作者: lkwmic    時間: 2009-8-28 22:33
但應該物有所值吧!
作者: Andrewkwan    時間: 2009-8-29 11:06
如果大部份 1/8 都係要 4xxx ,買 966 / M3 EVO / MRX4x 邊部好 ?
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-8-29 11:11
in Hong Kong Shepherd V8 & Serpent 966 are porpular
作者: jf813    時間: 2009-8-29 11:35
Edam under 3K ar

7# macau-rc
作者: swswsw    時間: 2009-8-29 12:58
Serpent.. easier to find parts.....
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-8-29 13:09
in Hong Kong Shepherd V8 & Serpent 966 are porpular
teamc 發表於 2009-8-29 11:11


v8 叫popular?

點先為之popular 呢?
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-8-29 15:44
你唔玩姐, 其他人玩
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-8-31 10:30
你唔玩姐, 其他人玩
teamc 發表於 2009-8-29 15:44



對...我係唔玩v8, 不過都係講公道說話啫.

無啦攞架話架v8 同人地serpent 比, 話大家都popular.

我相信”popular”是指受歡迎程度及最直接的數字 -- 出車數量

我無意比較兩車高下.

但覺v8 同 serpent係本港出車數量及車場出現率, 兩者相距甚遠.

無啦啦攞v8 同serpent比, 有狐假虎威的味道呢 
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-8-31 12:17
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-8-31 12:18 編輯

15# teamc

o既然 TQ 車都用 V8 parts

不如唔好賣車架, 轉行生產副廠  optional parts 俾 Mugen, Serpent 同 Kyosho, 可能有起色呢 
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-8-31 18:41
we are sorry for such impolite member, but you need to understand you are not the only group for 1/8 on road in HK !!!
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-8-31 18:48
狐假虎威 - cao not understand !!! Shepherd V8 & Serpent 966 is two different car, in my post I never suggest Ching to buy which car, so what is the problem for my post ???

你似雞蛋裏挑骨頭
作者: RRRRR    時間: 2009-8-31 22:48
本帖最後由 RRRRR 於 2009-8-31 22:51 編輯
對...我係唔玩v8, 不過都係講公道說話啫.

無啦攞架話架v8 同人地serpent 比, 話大家都popular.

我相信”popular”是指受歡迎程度及最直接的數字 -- 出車數量

我無意比較兩車高 ...
stanley_wwy 發表於 2009-8-31 10:30


是否 "popular" 係好主觀嘅,全塲得幾架 1/8 有一两隻玻璃羊,咁個市塲佔有率都達 30 % 至 50 %

http://bbs.rc-evo.com/viewthread ... page%3D8&page=4

佢地嗰位"Macau-rc" 係 7月9日話"看今年8月世界賽,就知邊架好................................................"
可惜8月世界賽 Top 10 一條羊毛都揾唔倒,邊架最好邊架最差已好清楚,V8
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-8-31 23:12
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-8-31 23:15 編輯
狐假虎威 - cao not understand !!! Shepherd V8 & Serpent 966 is two different car, in my post I never suggest Ching to buy which car, so what is the problem for my post ???

你似雞蛋裏挑骨頭
teamc 發表於 2009-8-31 18:48


According to Yahoo Dictionary, it means the following:

http://hk.dictionary.yahoo.com/s ... 0%B0%B2%AA%EA%AB%C2

狐假虎威 標示解釋

釋義
   
hu jia hu wei
ㄏㄨˊ ㄐㄧㄚˇ ㄏㄨˇ ㄨㄟ     

1.the fox borrowing the awe of the tiger; an ass in the lion's skin
2.to browbeat others by virtue of one's powerful connections

In our case, it can be interpreted as "the Velox borrowing the awe of the Serpent"

I am not a bit impolite, just trying to clearify meanings and bringing out the truth.

I mean you are misleadingly connecting Velox to the virtue and popularity of Serpent.
作者: justinwan    時間: 2009-8-31 23:35
事但la ..............主要都係想搵交吵ja ma ....嘈完就算la.....永遠都無結論,沒完沒了.....嘈多兩年又wc....到時可能top 10 十架羊......
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-1 00:01
事但la ..............主要都係想搵交吵ja ma ....嘈完就算la.....永遠都無結論,沒完沒了.....嘈多兩年又wc....到時可能top 10 十架羊......
justinwan 發表於 2009-8-31 23:35


yea let's wait then

everything is possible.
作者: RRRRR    時間: 2009-9-1 09:23
本帖最後由 RRRRR 於 2009-9-1 09:28 編輯
事但la ..............主要都係想搵交吵ja ma ....嘈完就算la.....永遠都無結論,沒完沒了.....嘈多兩年又wc....到時可能top 10 十架羊......
justinwan 發表於 2009-8-31 23:35


top 10 十架羊......Are you dreaming ?

點會冇結論,8 月世界賽已有成績比大家睇

冇人搵交嗌喎,你哋 D 玻璃羊喺唔喺唔講得先,定喺你 九唔撘八
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-1 09:53
是否 "popular" 係好主觀,全得幾架 1/8 有一隻玻璃羊,咁個市佔有率都達 30 % 至 50 %

http://bbs.rc-evo.com/viewthread ... page%3D8&page=4

佢地 ...
RRRRR 發表於 2009-8-31 22:48


大家快d去買Kyosho M3 Evolva lu................
大家快d去買Collari engine lu......................
大家快d去買Sanwa Stick Control lu........................
作者: RRRRR    時間: 2009-9-1 10:17
大家快d去買Kyosho M3 Evolva lu................
大家快d去買Collari engine lu......................
大家快d去買Sanwa Stick Control lu........................
macau-rc 發表於 2009-9-1 09:53


已經玩緊啦 Kyosho M3 + Novarossi Collari + Futaba 4PK
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-1 10:29
已經玩緊啦 Kyosho M3 + Novarossi Collari + Futaba 4PK
RRRRR 發表於 2009-9-1 10:17


U have right choice, please continue..................
作者: NTK    時間: 2009-9-1 11:12
U have right choice, please continue..................
macau-rc 發表於 2009-9-1 10:29


You also have good choice, V8+Picco+ATS, keep going....., but V8 really not popular in Hong Kong, may be in Macau......
作者: 993r    時間: 2009-9-1 11:23
You also have good choice, V8+Picco+ATS, keep going....., but V8 really not popular in Hong Kong, may be in Macau......
NTK 發表於 2009-9-1 11:12

V8 really not popular in Hong Kong (Aco only).It's popular in Trc.
作者: NTK    時間: 2009-9-1 11:36
29# 993r

I agree with you V8 is popular in TRC, if you count the attendance of 1/8 in TRC. Let us see how many V8 will join the coming race...., I also know that V8 is most popular in 2nd hand market....may be 3rd hand.....
作者: Ducati    時間: 2009-9-1 11:37
I see many V8 in TRC already...
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-1 12:04
You also have good choice, V8+Picco+ATS, keep going....., but V8 really not popular in Hong Kong, may be in Macau......
NTK 發表於 2009-9-1 11:12


THX, 1/8 is not popular in Macau market, I don't know HK 1/8 market, I am novice in 1/8, early time 960 give me not very good feeling, specialy in clucth, 966 seems look like good, but after c, is same clucth design, so I choice V8, he give me easy to drive, and parts no hard to find.
M3, MRX4X and P.8.1 I like too, but parts seems not easy to find.
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-1 12:12
regarding world championship, this is first time for Shepherd ( 2007 Argentina is brand new car only Patrick and other driver only ), finally 4 cars in 1/2, we are happy with this result,
loss or not one in top 10 no problem, because we are still young !!!
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-1 12:16
popular or not 唔重要,自已開心就得la...........................
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-1 12:20
the most important is all the driver try very hard to get best result, same as all the sports
Winner got one, so others are all loser ? No !!!

Spirit of sports not only win and loss.

Of course the truth is Mugen TQ, Kyosho Wins
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-1 13:19
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-1 13:25 編輯
popular or not 唔重要,自已開心就得la...........................
macau-rc 發表於 2009-9-1 12:16



exactly....RC cars are for fun, and of course also for serious racing.

just feel not right that someone is misleadingly relating this "Young" brand to the virtue and popularity of another well established and popular brand

groundlessly saying "in Hong Kong Shepherd V8 & Serpent 966 are porpular" seems to be a bad way of indirect promotion and misleading novices
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-1 14:22
理論上serpent 966應該popular 多d,因960可upgrade變966,960由04年尾出,960->960FD->960,07->960,08->966 (唔知有無錯),多人有960系刊係正常,World Model Cup又有一定人玩。
Shepherd Velox V8係新廠,車系好新,無966那么popular係正常,design唔錯,parts又有,出車%應該多過Motonica, MRX4X (係HK).
M3係好車一架,但代理就....................................
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-1 15:33
本帖最後由 teamc 於 2009-9-1 15:38 編輯

young can not be popular car ??? what logisitc it is ???
compare one thing just compare on sales qty, what logistic it is ???

then Iphone can not be popular because the sales qty is much much
less than Nokia, Motorola because those two brand was in market
more than 10 year, this is your 邏輯 ? so people can not put Iphone together
with Nokia and motorola this is bad way of promotion
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-1 15:48
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-1 16:04 編輯

38# teamc

wow...you really like to distort concepts...

trying to relate V8 to the iphone........are they really comparable? Is V8 as good and innovative as the iphone?

try to look at the annual sales volume of iphone ......and look at the sales volume of V8.......

"Young" and "popular" are not contradictory concepts, a typical case is "young models" can be "popular"

But the Young V8 is really not as popular as the Serpent in HK, sorry.

If sales volume is not the criterion for comparison of popularity, please provide your suggestion.

I have one - "網上被插率", then V8 is very popular, as it's "Young" and has been frequently criticized in HK RC Fora
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-1 15:59
動機 => 搞搞震 finish !!!
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-1 16:12
40# teamc

Correction => The motive is to ask you "teamc" to provide the basis to support your saying "in Hong Kong Shepherd V8 & Serpent 966 are porpular"
作者: justinwan    時間: 2009-9-1 19:36
as my standard .  porpular just mean common ........the fact is now V8 and 966 or may be M3 is the most coomon 1:8 in the market wo .......   can u say mugen is more then V8 ?  

no 1 mention or compair V8 with 966 wo ..just yr felling. it just the problem with the market share.  no 1 said V8 more then 966 or 966 more then V8.  just u guys 發神經,揾野吵

if i like , i can say all 4 brand , shepherd , serpent , kyosho mugen all are porpular. so what .??

support for what ??this is a forum  not a court .so do u have evidence to show V8 is not porpular ?
作者: justinwan    時間: 2009-9-1 19:36
本帖最後由 justinwan 於 2009-9-1 19:43 編輯

仲有, 賣得多就=好車? 賣得少就係垃圾????層次吾係咁低ar ?
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-1 23:02
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-1 23:04 編輯
仲有, 賣得多就=好車? 賣得少就係垃圾????層次吾係咁低ar ?
justinwan 發表於 2009-9-1 19:36


um....

Justin brother....you'd better follow the whole story.....I clearly stated at the beginning I'm not comparing the quality, but the meaning of "popularity" meant by "teamc". Please refer to post #16

even if this is not the court, it doesn't mean people can say whatever they want and mislead others, bullshxxing will surely attract critics and clarification.

未睇晒個故仔就搭咀, 層次唔係咁低呀?

also, please mind your wordings --- "發神經,揾野吵 "......
作者: justinwan    時間: 2009-9-2 12:42
都話由到到尾無人有意用架v8同966 比, 直到你出現先帶左個咁既信息出來..宜家係你吾導人.係你去扭曲人地既說話.. 人地話serpent  同shepherd 係porpular.  我認為係wo.... 好果100 架車有70架966 ,30架v8 都可以稱porpular ga wo... 你根本一開頭就係度無理取閙

仲有你根本就針對人...人地講一句你就咬住吾放幾日? 日日夜夜追擊人.你吾好同我講話你有正義感....
作者: justinwan    時間: 2009-9-2 13:05
咁q 簡單, 宜家shepherd 同serpent 係吾係賣得最多ar ?.....mugen  多d 定shepherd 多ar ?  咁係吾係popular ar ??   咁人地有無錯ar ?答我ar ???

你答吾答都吾緊要..我就真係吾同你din 我地有正經野做既人....就吾會一般見識亂咁吠...
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-2 13:30
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-2 13:48 編輯

seems like you are the one thinking that you have 正義感 more.

You have real businesses to deal with, then go back to your "real businesses", 搭兩句訕就學人總結, 又話有正經野做, 又話人癲, 又呢樣又果樣, 正義O既朋友呀? 邊個亂吠呢究竟?

don't you understand English or Chinese?

I'm not comparing the quality of the car, I just wanna know how "teamc" can groundlessly linking V8 to the popularity of Serpent.

我講緊有幾popular, 有人就以為我彈佢架車唔好, 先咁多回覆啫. 架車好唔好, 早有定論 

"好果100 架車有70架966 ,30架v8 都可以稱porpular ga wo" <------are you sure the ratio is as high as this?
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-2 15:04
waste time la, know his motive no need to discuss with such person

only his logistic is correct, 70/30's story is same as Nokia and Iphone, everyone knows Nokia sells more than Iphone, in his logisitc you can not say Iphone is popular, or in his mind he do not accept Shepherd V8 become popular !!!
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-2 15:39
本帖最後由 macau-rc 於 2009-9-2 15:41 編輯

將句說話改成 "Serpent 966 is most popular than Shepherd Velox V8, Mugen MRX4X, Kyosho Evolva M3 and Motonica P8.1 in HK" d 人就會高興lor................
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-2 15:45
本帖最後由 macau-rc 於 2009-9-2 15:48 編輯

如果加埋MAX, Sirio, RB is most popular than IDM and Picco, d人重高興ar! 請你係某某車場BBQ都得!
作者: RCANDY    時間: 2009-9-2 15:49
將句說話改成 :Serpent 966 is the most popular RC nitro car in the world!!!!
All the people will happy la
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-2 16:26
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-2 16:32 編輯
waste time la, know his motive no need to discuss with such person

only his logistic is correct, 70/30's story is same as Nokia and Iphone, everyone knows Nokia sells more than Iphone, in his logis ...
teamc 發表於 2009-9-2 15:04


trying to relate your V8 to the iphone again....you are really hopeless...how is the V8 comparable to the iphone? 不自量力.

you know how many iphone have been sold around the world?

how many v8 are sold then?

people are lining up for iphones, do you have people lining up in KWS for the V8?

iphone is one of the most influential and innovative products in recent years, in the global context, how can the v8 compare with that?
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-2 16:28
將句說話改成 :Serpent 966 is the most popular RC nitro car in the world!!!!
All the people will happy la
RCANDY 發表於 2009-9-2 15:49


If you are considering 1/8 nitro on road in recent years? it may be the truth, right? set aside quality issues.
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-2 16:34
Copyright from redrc (1/8 WC this year)

Trawling through the details given by competitors for the 2009 IFMAR 1:8 Onroad World Championships it is current TQ holders Mugen and Novarossi that are the No.1 equipment of choice here in Switzerland. A total of 47 drivers have listed Mugen, who were last Champions back in 2001, as their chassis with Serpent’s 966 being the second most popular with 39 users. Sharing third are Shepherd and defending Champions Kyosho with 23 drivers each. The only other manufacturer present Motonica are represented by 16 drivers.

Powering the cars around the large Lostallo track, Novarossi is being used by over a third of the drivers making them by far the most popular engines with 52 racers. Max Power are closest on volume with 19 competitors choosing the Novarossi based unit. Sharing third with 18 drivers each are Picco and Sirio.

Keeping the cars on the track, it is ATS that is most popular with 32 racers using the Italian tyres. Enneti and Matrix have 22 drivers listing them as their tyre of choice with Xceed the other big player with 17 running their foam.  In total 19 different tyre brands are listed by the 148 competitors running at the 16th World Championships.
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-2 19:35
54# macau-rc

thanks for the information and agree with your post #37
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-2 20:53
most popular is Mugen, alien
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-2 22:20
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-2 22:24 編輯
most popular is Mugen, alien
teamc 發表於 2009-9-2 20:53


in this year WC....not HK....

Mugen's build quality is really good
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-2 22:35
54# macau-rc

thanks for the information and agree with your post #37
stanley_wwy 發表於 2009-9-2 19:35


agree with #37, he say Shepherd is good car, alien
作者: NTK    時間: 2009-9-2 23:03
agree with #37, he say Shepherd is good car, alien
teamc 發表於 2009-9-2 22:35


But foolish sole agent in Hong Kong...
作者: stanley_wwy    時間: 2009-9-2 23:26
本帖最後由 stanley_wwy 於 2009-9-3 08:40 編輯
agree with #37, he say Shepherd is good car, alien
teamc 發表於 2009-9-2 22:35


唔錯 = good?

good design = good car? how about the material? manufacturing quality control? durability?

要做一架好車....仲要賣得, 好多因素o既.....代理質素都好緊要, 慢慢學啦.

都話唔係講quality, 係你句咩popular有問題啫

另請注意用詞 , 我唔係外國人, 都唔係外星人, 唔該唔好叫alien
作者: macau-rc    時間: 2009-9-3 11:11
車好唔好,d人會知,一架好車唔代表賣得,有好多因素 (如經濟差etc....),如Mini-Z同Dnano一樣,Mini-Z係經濟最好時出,幾買得,但Dnano就無Mini-Z買得,但Dnano quality 一定高過Mini-Z。
作者: teamc    時間: 2009-9-3 12:29
注意用詞 ? - remind yourself from first beginning 思覺失調定失憶 alien
作者: no.1chio    時間: 2009-9-4 00:47
MRX4X好車一部!




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