There was indeed one or two Fireball kits appeared in Hong Kong. It was Global rc (the small shop next to Waigo, sold BMT car and airplanes, closed already) and Harmony (Hung Sing) once disappeared a kit). Don't know who bought it.
The fireball came originally with a BMT 1/10 fuel tank and narrowed 1/8 rear rims (white color) to suit the 1/10 spec.作者: camlchris 時間: 2009-9-15 13:32 本帖最後由 camlchris 於 2009-9-15 13:36 編輯
tiger 1 師兄,真識貨! 在 ebay ,這台 Cook Racing P4 賣 US$1500.00 。 作者: COOKER2 時間: 2009-9-16 00:58
the paris pie is good .作者: sport 時間: 2009-9-17 18:54
有一部係亞蘇士?作者: tiger1 時間: 2009-9-18 08:46
The third and fourth photos Fantom have some interesting modifications. See like the owner made a extra bearing support in the middle of the front axle.
The rear axle also has an interesting modification in the middle. Anyone knows what is in the rear? 作者: aattaa 時間: 2009-9-18 09:11 本帖最後由 aattaa 於 2009-9-18 12:00 編輯
Thanks for the answer. This make sense. My understanding was that Phoenix was known to be very fast but very hard to control due to no suspension and rather primitive design. This fantom has differential in the rear makes it a gem among all fantoms
I believe the original fantom has no differential in the rear, correct?
Anyone has personal driving/building experience with Fantom?作者: tiger1 時間: 2009-9-18 14:16
aattaa:
Thanks for the answer. This make sense. My understanding was that Phoenix was known to be very fast but very hard to control due to no suspension and rather primitive design. This fantom has differential in the rear makes it a gem among all fantoms
I believe the original fantom has no differential in the rear, correct?
Anyone has personal driving/building experience with Fantom?作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-9-18 16:07 本帖最後由 polarbear 於 2009-9-18 16:08 編輯
Hello,
I had driven the Fantom 20 both the 2wd to 4wd versions. Mine was a conversion from 2wd to 4wd and the set was bougth from Lai Chi Kwok Tak Cheong). Basically the standard 2wd kit was solid axle. The 4wd was of course a milestone to Kyosho. I remember a driver, Mr Chung (from Macau??), had quite good performance with Fantom 2wd at Shatin course. The 4wd with OS engine was the winner in pan car era. (Cheung Kin Ming, Nikki Kong and James Choy Chi Keung formed a strong team) However, the Spur gear hub worn out fairly fast..
The were various hop up and long lasting tires from Thirty Products.
The special belt and rear oil shock version only appeared in the Tokyo WC.
The independent 4wd 2speed Fantom IS only sustained for a short period. Samuel Chui Sin On was one of the few drivers. Too much metal parts and worn out very fast.作者: tiger1 時間: 2009-9-18 17:27
I saw the belt version once on Yahoo japan, what a beauty 作者: aattaa 時間: 2009-9-18 18:01
以我記憶當時我玩AAT-(設計和Phoenix差不多)並不難揸,直路好快好定,冇差速入彎出彎較慢....
How would you compare a rc300 with aat in terms of handling?
I saw aat running before, definitely very very fast car 作者: mkevin 時間: 2009-9-18 23:22 4#kkchung
I have a friend who owned many Delta Cars, named Mr. Mok ........ I think someone may know him as he opened a RC shop in 80's.作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-9-18 23:30
Mr Mok Chung Fai of "King Kei" at MongKok?作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-9-18 23:34
When building the 4wd Fantom, please ensure the tension roller of the chain is fastened as it easily gets lost under acceleration and vibration. No problem if u don't run it : )作者: mkevin 時間: 2009-9-19 01:51 23#polarbear
Bingo ! Do you Know him ?作者: mkevin 時間: 2009-9-19 01:56 21#tiger1
Of course, I saw a staff from Waigo (Kowloon City Branch) driving this car in playground area at night, which is near "Chu Kong Cinema " in 80's作者: mkevin 時間: 2009-9-19 01:58 18#polarbear
I saw a competition in Tuen Mun area those days.作者: aattaa 時間: 2009-9-19 10:47
aattaa c hing:
How would you compare a rc300 with aat in terms of handling?
I saw aat running before, definitely very very fast car
tiger1 發表於 2009-9-18 23:05
I am so glad that so many people are interested in these 1/8 on road vintage, which was seldom discussed here before.
What is Road Ace Int? Must be an older brand that I have never heard of...
Any photos of Road Ace Int?作者: tiger1 時間: 2009-9-19 12:23
Thanks aattaa.
I am so glad that so many people are interested in these 1/8 on road vintage, which was seldom discussed here before.
What is Road Ace Int? Must be an older brand that I have never heard of...
Any photos of Road Ace Int?作者: aattaa 時間: 2009-9-19 12:37
Road Ace = a series of Phoenix racing car作者: tiger1 時間: 2009-9-19 13:43
thanks aattaa for the education.
Interesting that Phoenix differential actually fits the Fantom 作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-9-19 20:33 25#mkevin
Not really but met at the race. A very memorable race with Mr Mok's 2 speed 4wd Serpent vs Yeung's 2wd single speed Super eagle...... A close race and finally the Delta finished first. I still have a VHS tape of the race that day at Hing Wah Street.作者: mkevin 時間: 2009-9-19 23:28 本帖最後由 mkevin 於 2009-9-19 23:29 編輯
Really, he is a nice man as I sometimes meet him. He taught me a lot. I miss the days of 1/8 Competition as Mr. Jim XXXXXX, a famous actor, also played the RC 1/8 Serpent during his teenage. He was my classmate. How rich he was ?
C Hing, would you like to post the tape onto the website for sharing ?作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-9-21 10:51 35#mkevin
Humm... Will take some effort to convert it.作者: aattaa 時間: 2009-9-21 11:31
Interesting that Phoenix differential actually fits the Fantom
tiger1 發表於 2009-9-19 13:43
Gave the tape to Camlchris to convert....作者: camlchris 時間: 2009-9-29 16:43 本帖最後由 camlchris 於 2009-9-29 17:14 編輯
the DVD is done ! ( 1985 1/8 racing at Hing Wah Street)作者: camlchris 時間: 2009-9-30 13:55
石原直樹 舊照作者: tiger1 時間: 2009-10-12 16:50
石原直樹 quite handsome wor 作者: blueray 時間: 2009-10-12 21:01
i'm also his little fans by the time.作者: Sin 時間: 2009-10-13 01:34
there is a P4 Super J available in Ebay now, enjoy:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-1- ... sid=p3286.m63.l1177作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-10-13 11:37 44#Sin
Thanks. This car is quite interesting as this is not the standard Delat p4. It is 2ws with various Cook's modification on the suspension. It seems to have a metal one piece chassis and servo tray also. Quite unique but very different from a P4 or P2.作者: polarbear 時間: 2009-10-14 13:24
中西和彥 was also a great drvier and designer of Kyosho. He was the designer of Fantom 20 2wd and 4wd, as well as the 1/12 ep fantom.作者: keikei124 時間: 2009-10-18 18:44
very good作者: Andrewkwan 時間: 2009-11-23 17:25
1/8 歴史......good !